I have toyed with this topic for a number of months, years, actually.
I've thought and thought again about what to say, how to say it, when and where, and if it should be said at all. But, since I harp on this from time to time to close friends and close Christian friends in particular, maybe that time of setting words on the screen has at last come.
My wife and I and then-young family left the traditional, pentecostal church in January of 1988. It's not that we felt there were no good people there, or that we thought better of ourselves than the rest of the church, it was just time to go, to get away from the "safety" (as the pastor at the time said) of life at 222 1st Avenue in our home town. Google it if you're curious enough about where "our home town" is, and let me know if you get a hit.
We were tired of banal traditions that had been brought in the back of someone's grandmother's 1949 Ford coupe when they relocated here from wherever it is in Arkansas they lived. We were tired of a clothes line mentality that constantly carped on women wearing jewelry, slacks, and makeup. It seemed to me both now and then that there were far more urgent things to talk about in the church; discipleship, personal growth, developing the faith that could make us a more interactive entity with the community. Those things weren't the hot button issues, though. We majored in minors. There were Sunday night services that borderlined on the fanatical. This included, but wasn't restricted to, a Holy Huddle of the church's "holiness" women who would gather at times in a circle near the front, determine fields of opportunity, and then line up on the 40 yard-line of devil-busting and go to work. Certain individuals were "rebuked;" I was present in one service where an elderly woman was virtually told to sit down and be quiet during a "message" from the Lord. Another woman started at the back of the sanctuary and started stamping her feet, screaming, waving a dismissing hand over several couples seated there. They were being dissed, you know; God showing His displeasure by sending these emmisaries to shoo them away. These things happened under the very nose of a pastor, who recieved a check each week for his pastoral duties. I guess maintaining a spirit of balance and mdoeration and seemliness during Sunday services didn't fall into that category. From where I sat, he was a spectator in a theater of spiritual gladiators. These were among the most pathetic scenes I have ever witnessed as a believer and follower of Christ, and make the suitcoat waving antics of shyster Benny Hinn pale by comparison. Why none of the men in this congregation didn't rise to quell this quasi-religious rebellion and three-ring circus is beyond me. Maybe we felt outnumbered by the female quarterbacks
This was a church that wasn't interested in dialogue with non-Christians. They were interested in their own "spiritual" agendas, of coming to church with the view not of learning the fundamentals of the faith, but generating an exclusionary religious mindset. In the time simnce my family left, other families have left the church - some to find more stable and relevant bodies of Christians with which to fellowship and worship, and sadly, some have left the church completely, only to be embittered from living in an embattled atmosphere.
I found Christ in this church. He became real to me in life-changing ways. I found my wife there; our children were born during those years, and despite much of what happened, discovered that God loves me just as I am, but loves me too much to let me stay that way.
I'm concerned about this congregation. While other churches in the area have grown, thrived, and moved ahead, this one pretty much stays the same. That, too, is pathetic. I hope the trend can change.
Several years ago we returned there for the funeral of a relative of my wife's. One of the people we knew from the very early days came up to me and asked how things were going. "Fine," I replied genuinely. "We're doing great. We've got a blessed life, our children are grown and love Christ, and we have a tremendous church family." When I told her we were attending a more "nominal" church in town she sort of paled. "Really. . . you left here, you're not attending this church anymore?" "No," I contunued, "we've not been a part of this congregation since the late 1980's." "How could you leave here for a church like that?" she queried.
It wasn't a matter of how I could leave the church; it was a decision made after a lot of discussion, thought, and prayer. We left because our lives needed a re-definition of sorts, a revival that just wasn't happening there. How could I leave? Simple - how could I not?
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Hi Mike: Very well put and I echo your experience, albeit from a different stage in life. I grew up in the Pentecostal tradition, as you know, and was troubled by it in some vague sense from as early as 10. These issues crystallized as I became older. I'm completely familiar with the scenarios you described, and would add to the list a profound lack of pastoral scholarship and an undercurrent of racism. I clearly recall our pastor telling me several jokes that were derogatory toward African Americans and actually using 2 Corinthians 6:14 ("Be ye not unequally yoked...") as a scriptural support against interracial marriage! This same pastor became a district overseer in the Church of God!
I still remember with horror the emotional free for all that was Sunday night, complete with many messages in "tongues" and interpretations, often given by the same person - ALL in violation of scripture. I was amazed to discover in college that Paul set some pretty clear guidelines for how those gifts should play out in a service. Sadly, I NEVER saw those guidelines in practice or heard them mentioned from the pulpit. I tried so hard to speak in tongues too, as that was supposedly the mark of a "true believer". Never mind that it's clearly described as a gift - some have been given the gift and some haven't, as with prophecy, teaching, etc.
I contrast all this with the first time I walked into Bethlehem Baptist Church in Minneapolis. There, I found reverence, solid theologically sound preaching, genuine affection for Christ, and really, a church that I had been looking for my whole life without knowing it. Glad to say that gone are the days of being told a preacher was really annointed due to the emotional frenzy he could lather up.
Thanks again for posting your experience. Peace!> Brian H.
I believe you have struck a cord with many of us Mike. I was raised in the Pentecostal church and attended the same church as you in those days and have finally after many years of searching for other churches have settled with living for God without a home church(much to the dismay of family)I believe in some way I was traumatized by a lot of the overboard emotional services that I attended. I felt guilty that I believed some of the hysterics were uncalled for and forced.After many years of this I chose to leave it all behind. I don't believe anything ordained by God will leave you feeling confused and guilt ridden.I live my life and try to do the right thing everyday. I thank God everyday for all He has given me.I do not feel doomed and I do not feel I have lost my commitment to God.Probably the only thing I miss from those days are the good times we somehow managed to have when we all got together.I think you remember some of those times! I miss my friends but the drama is something I try to forget!Maybe one day I will find a church to attend but for now I am content! God Bless you!
I have been attending a Pentacostal church for 11 months now. I became almost homeless and was allowed to stay at a place that feed the homeless and we work there to run the place, and find work as soon as possibible. The catch is we are required to attend a pentacostal church service that the pastor who runs the homeless place is pastor of. We are required to attend church services, Wed eves, Sunday morn, Sun Eve. We are also required to attend some sort of religous thing on tues eves, thrusday eve, and also a church service of the ministries on friday eve. Also bible study twice in the mornings, one in afternoon, and one in the eve. The time allotted to find work is very limited. The only jobs we can go for are as low paying hamburger joint type jobs or minial labor. Crammed into dirty bunks in a dirty place. Then they take 2/3 if the part time pay which usually leaves a few dollars to spend the very few times there is work. The time spent their is a constant bombardment of pentacostal religion type stuff. I appreciate the place to stay, but it is catch 22. One is kekpt stuck there for lack of getting out to look for jobs on a consistant basis, and a brainwashing type atmosphere usually causing people to want out badly.
Keeping people broke and working for them and taking almost the pennies they make.
I want nothing to do with pentacostal extremeist. They are a real danger the way I see it
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